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Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 10:37
by fuflix
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/s ... jsi/simple

acesta e altul magutului de mai sus un dk care rupe norma in arene
pvpu in cata akm mi se pare deosebit de slab deoarece akm toate clasele se healeaza nu mai exista acea diferenta dintre un healer si un warr de ex si pe langa toate astea maj claselor melee au suferit un nerf
ex warrior akm pe cata=0 in arene inainte cand vedeai disci warr dam pe disci pana la pastele cailor akm se da pe warr de zici ca e clothier saracu

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 12:17
by CRYSTYS
Heinze wrote:nu caut anturaj, spuneam doar ca tu niciodata nu ai stiut ce e ala pvp, nu ca n-ai fi incercat, ai incercat, dar nu ti-a reusit, deci parerea ta in materie de pvp=0, dupa care am adus si argumente care demonstreaza ca ce incerci tu sa spui este total gresit, so, vezi-ti de prafuri, pl0x



Uite unde era Athene al serverelor private.

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 12 Aug 2011, 15:04
by Snapy
"usor de citit, greu de inteles"

:-B

Acum bea si tu 3 cutii de bere si dai reply. :)

poate prinzi si tu barbatie si intrii pe character`ul ala a prietenului tau gm si imi dai ban :( . Then maybe i`ll be a POKAA FACEEE

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 19:19
by j0hnny
E comic cum se tin discutii aprinse de "combo"-uri pentru arene/pvp in contextul in care o buna parte din "game mechanics' lipsesc cu desavarsire.

1. Line of Sight - ca pentru zei, cast/shoot prin pereti/copaci/podea/forme de relief. Mai clar: "are wallhack".
2. Spell scaling - inexistent: Tot ce e pe baza de dot/hot e degeaba.
3. Resistances - Cu un Mark of the Wild si un BoK esti mai tare ca Rhonin: Minim 31% din spell e RESISTED, si asta inainte sa intre in calcul Resillience !
4. Spell penetration -
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5. Fear - "breaks" de la dmg ori mult prea devreme ori mult prea tarziu.
6. Glyphs - Multe merg prea bine ( Glyph of Backstab ) multe merg pana la relog ( Insert random) si majoritatea celor noi nu merg deloc.
7. Diminishing returns - mai precis DR Sharing - unele efecte ar trebui sa contribuie impreuna la scaderea duratei la aplicari repetate.
o lista luata de pe wiki
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Shared Diminishing Return Categories Edit
Controlled Root - Freeze (Water Elemental), Pin (Crab), Frost Nova, Entangling Roots, Earthgrab (Storm, Earth and Fire)
Controlled Stun - Bash, Concussion Blow, Deep Freeze, Demon Charge, Gnaw, Holy Wrath, Inferno Effect (Doomguard summon), Hammer of Justice, Intercept (Felguard), Intercept (Warrior), Intimidation, Kidney Shot, Maim, Ravage, Shadowfury, Shockwave, Sonic Blast, War Stomp
Disarm - Chimera Shot - Scorpid, Disarm, Dismantle, Psychic Horror (Disarm effect), Snatch
Disorient - Freezing Arrow, Freezing Trap, Gouge, Hex, Hibernate, Hungering Cold, Polymorph, Repentance, Sap, Shackle, Wyvern Sting
Fear - Blind, Fear (Warlock), Howl of Terror, Intimidating Shout, Psychic Scream, Scare Beast, Seduction (Pet), Turn Evil
Horror - Death Coil, Psychic Horror
Opener Stun - Cheap Shot, Pounce
Random Root - Frostbite, Improved Hamstring, Shattered Barrier
Random Stun - Impact, Revenge Stun, Seal of Justice, Stoneclaw Stun
Silence - Arcane Torrent, Gag Order (Warrior talent), Garrote, Improved Counterspell, Nether Shock, Silencing Shot, Improved Kick, Shield of the Templar, Silence (Priest), Spell Lock, Strangulate
Taunt - Angered Earth, Challenging Howl, Challenging Roar, Challenging Shout, Dark Command, Death Grip, Distracting Shot, Growl (Druid), Hand of Reckoning, Mocking Blow, Righteous Defense, Taunt (Pet),Taunt (Warrior)
Banish, Charge, Cyclone, Entrapment, Scatter Shot, and Mind Control are on diminishing returns with themselves.


Daca vorbim de arene - in situatia actuala doua/trei/cinci clase cu abilitati de control puternice te tin in acelas tip de CC pe durata intreaga. (disarm full urmat de alt disarm full , daca e de la spell/skill diferit , silence dupa silence etc)

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 20:01
by j0hnny
Si acum , TA DA DAM motivele pentru care unele clase is OP in pvp:

Warrior - Immobilize se pune la orice Hammstring.
Charge + Intercept - se pot abuza in cand vine vorba de range/cooldown (In traducere, nu poti scapa de un warrior)

Paladins - holy - mastery bug FTW: http://www.wowhead.com/spell=76669
Noile tampoane Always Holy absorb tot !
- prot - Reckoning permanent
(http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20179)
- OMGWTF dmg la abilitati
Holy Wrath - da stun la tot (la fiecare 15 secunde)
Druids - feral - perpetuum mobile (un-rootable)
Shamans - resto - 20k heal non-crit de la Earth Shield (per tick) - tested !

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Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 20:40
by DRKwolf
"Holy Wrath - da stun la tot (la fiecare 15 secunde)"
Holy Wrath - stunul la care plangeati toti este dezactivat cu totul.

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 21:43
by -Base-
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=12668
esti destept rau :( si app e cu un sg m nu hammstring

si la faza cu shamu , ss or gtfo

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 22:33
by j0hnny
-Base- wrote:http://www.wowhead.com/spell=12668
esti destept rau :( si app e cu un sg m nu hammstring

si la faza cu shamu , ss or gtfo


da Base aia e de retinut din postul meu, gramatica /:)
Nu mai joc aici, dar /w heinze in joc si fa un test :).

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 13 Aug 2011, 22:36
by -Base-
am shamy , am testat , am facut poza si am si postat nu am nevoie sa vina un ametit pe forum [ nu ma refer la tine , sunt multi care fac topic cu "BAAA E OP SHAMU AM BATUT LA UNU 2 ZILE , bine nu i-am dat nici un cc si mai erau 3 care ii tineau healu' da' e op rau de tot] si sa imi spuna ceva de shamy

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2011, 00:24
by Heinze
shamanul resto intr-adevar e op, dar la noi pe server nu e nimic in plus fata de ce e pe retail, shamanu resto e op in patchu asta direct de la blizzard


la paladin, mastery-ul e scos, si holy wrath ala e disabled stunu or sth din ce am auzit, momentan ramane problema la warrs cu shared cd la charge/intercept care nu exista, dar speram sa se rezolve

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2011, 18:20
by Baston
Reparati si voi enha k vreau sa fac putina senzatie :w00t:...

Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2011, 19:58
by MCH
Baston wrote: vreau sa fac putina senzatie :w00t:...

cu ce?


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Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2011, 21:59
by Baston
Cu ce vreau... :box:



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Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 14 Aug 2011, 23:42
by MCH
Esti boss atunci,gg.


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Re: Discutii PvP/PvE

PostPosted: 15 Aug 2011, 01:37
by -Shaggz-
bine ca o arzi cu off topic da la faggotu cu double posts sa nu-i dai.
:-<


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